Comments on: Swancon Thirty Six | Natcon Fifty Program http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/ Get ready to party like it's Easter 2011 Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:04:21 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ann Poore http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Ann Poore Fri, 22 Oct 2010 06:15:53 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-24 It was lovely to have filking on the Worldcon program. Mind you, it would not have happened if it hadn't been pushed...Would love to see more...And Perth has always had good filkers...If there was to be filking on the program, I would love to be involved, as it is a little niche of fandom that is close to my heart, and would be a sure way to drag me and my harp 5 days across country....(good thing I like long distance travel!!) It was lovely to have filking on the Worldcon program. Mind you, it would not have happened if it hadn’t been pushed…Would love to see more…And Perth has always had good filkers…If there was to be filking on the program, I would love to be involved, as it is a little niche of fandom that is close to my heart, and would be a sure way to drag me and my harp 5 days across country….(good thing I like long distance travel!!)

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By: ADRIENNE LOSIN http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-18 ADRIENNE LOSIN Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:56:04 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-18 Truly a great effort went in to doing the recent Aussie Worldcon, but I found THE CON to be a geart disappointment as far as the MEETING OF NEW FANS,artshow,networking,fannish activities and opportunities for meetings pros (many of whom I've already chatted to at cons in USA, but few have that privelege). The indecipherable nametags were, I'm sure, a printing accident.BUT UNFORGIVEABLE!aND OF COURSE THEY WERE SHORT OF VOLUNTEERS AND ARTISTS AND COSTUMIERS...'cos treating creative people badly for years doesn't make them flock to your cause.Next year I'm going to a fanrun litcon in NSW where costumes and fannish creativity are encouraged, but other litfen will never learn. Truly a great effort went in to doing the recent Aussie Worldcon, but I found THE CON to be a geart disappointment as far as the MEETING OF NEW FANS,artshow,networking,fannish activities and opportunities for meetings pros (many of whom I’ve already chatted to at cons in USA, but few have that privelege). The indecipherable nametags were, I’m sure, a printing accident.BUT UNFORGIVEABLE!aND OF COURSE THEY WERE SHORT OF VOLUNTEERS AND ARTISTS AND COSTUMIERS…’cos treating creative people badly for years doesn’t make them flock to your cause.Next year I’m going to a fanrun litcon in NSW where costumes and fannish creativity are encouraged, but other litfen will never learn.

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By: Gary Kemble http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Gary Kemble Tue, 05 Oct 2010 05:15:08 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-17 I think it would be great if the program could be offered in wiki format. It would serve two purposes - it's easy to update but also, the wiki page for each event could become a place for bloggers to add links, thereby collecting all the coverage on each even in one place. One thing I found with WorldCon is that there was so much blogging that much content probably got lost in the deluge. I think it would be great if the program could be offered in wiki format. It would serve two purposes – it’s easy to update but also, the wiki page for each event could become a place for bloggers to add links, thereby collecting all the coverage on each even in one place.

One thing I found with WorldCon is that there was so much blogging that much content probably got lost in the deluge.

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By: Martin http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Martin Tue, 05 Oct 2010 00:53:13 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-16 One panel I really enjoyed at a previous Swancon but has never been repeated since was "Iron Writer", where three writers attempt to write a short story in half an hour based on suggestions from the audience and constant interruptions and additions throughout the time. Funnily enough, it's an activity close to my heart. ;) I'd also love to see an SFnal version of "Whose Line Is It Anyway" (Whose Alien Is It Anyway"???), with a bunch of good improvisers making up SF-related skits on the fly, again from suggestions from the audience. But I think that might be wishful thinking on my part! Ditto with a "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game show for film nerds. ;) One panel I really enjoyed at a previous Swancon but has never been repeated since was “Iron Writer”, where three writers attempt to write a short story in half an hour based on suggestions from the audience and constant interruptions and additions throughout the time. Funnily enough, it’s an activity close to my heart. ;)

I’d also love to see an SFnal version of “Whose Line Is It Anyway” (Whose Alien Is It Anyway”???), with a bunch of good improvisers making up SF-related skits on the fly, again from suggestions from the audience. But I think that might be wishful thinking on my part! Ditto with a “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon” game show for film nerds. ;)

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By: Thoraiya http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Thoraiya Mon, 04 Oct 2010 21:42:22 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-15 I would love to see a panel on "Should non-Indigenous people write about Indigenous people at all? /Respectfully depicting Indigenous culture in historical fantasy". This is a topic that some people tried to raise at Worldcon, but the American guests were only able to talk about the American First Nations people, who are a world away. Somebody to organise this conversation might not be a person with her foot perpetually in her mouth, like me, but a person who published the only Indigenous speculative fiction story I've read this year, Gillian Pollack. Writers I would be keen to hear from include Yaritji Green, Alexis Wright, Tara June Winch, May O'Brien, Anita Heiss and Melissa Lucashenko. And maybe there could be some kind of tribute to Patricia Wrightson, who died in March 2010. I would love to see a panel on “Should non-Indigenous people write about Indigenous people at all? /Respectfully depicting Indigenous culture in historical fantasy”.

This is a topic that some people tried to raise at Worldcon, but the American guests were only able to talk about the American First Nations people, who are a world away.

Somebody to organise this conversation might not be a person with her foot perpetually in her mouth, like me, but a person who published the only Indigenous speculative fiction story I’ve read this year, Gillian Pollack.

Writers I would be keen to hear from include Yaritji Green, Alexis Wright, Tara June Winch, May O’Brien, Anita Heiss and Melissa Lucashenko.

And maybe there could be some kind of tribute to Patricia Wrightson, who died in March 2010.

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By: Stephanie Bateman-Graham http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Stephanie Bateman-Graham Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:47:25 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-13 I'd like to be involved in encouraging new and shy members to attend. I think we need more informal "So this is your first con" sessions to catch the people who only go on one day. And more effort towards marketing (or just explaining) what Swancon is, to justify the costs and effort required to get there. Cheap day is essential! I’d like to be involved in encouraging new and shy members to attend. I think we need more informal “So this is your first con” sessions to catch the people who only go on one day. And more effort towards marketing (or just explaining) what Swancon is, to justify the costs and effort required to get there. Cheap day is essential!

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By: Chaz http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Chaz Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:52:14 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-12 Loved the AHWA masque on the friday night. Need to ensure the pink sheets are actualy handed out at arrival when I turned up on the Saturday (@ Aussicon) my welcome pack had everyhting but. Finally found a folorn pile of pink sheets off on a ledge..okay Flinthart found them to be honest. Loved the AHWA masque on the friday night.

Need to ensure the pink sheets are actualy handed out at arrival when I turned up on the Saturday (@ Aussicon) my welcome pack had everyhting but. Finally found a folorn pile of pink sheets off on a ledge..okay Flinthart found them to be honest.

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By: Janette http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Janette Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:31:28 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-11 Oh yes - forgot to say MUST have good moderators who can lead discussion well. And more importantly prevent derailing by panellists and/or audience. Specially audience members who do speech-disguised-as-question thing (sheesh). Program updates do need to be accurate, whether totally new or just errata. One of the early pink sheets at Aussiecon had a separate list of who had pulled out and who had been added, but that only happened once - fab idea worth copying! BTW I know one author had to go home sick on the Saturday morning - program mgrs were advised by her publisher but didn't update program until last day. It was SO not her fault, or her publishers! Assume overworked volunteers missed it, they have my sympathies but it would have been aggravating for her fans :-( Oh yes – forgot to say MUST have good moderators who can lead discussion well. And more importantly prevent derailing by panellists and/or audience. Specially audience members who do speech-disguised-as-question thing (sheesh).

Program updates do need to be accurate, whether totally new or just errata. One of the early pink sheets at Aussiecon had a separate list of who had pulled out and who had been added, but that only happened once – fab idea worth copying!

BTW I know one author had to go home sick on the Saturday morning – program mgrs were advised by her publisher but didn’t update program until last day. It was SO not her fault, or her publishers! Assume overworked volunteers missed it, they have my sympathies but it would have been aggravating for her fans :-(

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By: d http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-10 d Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:37:32 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-10 Double-sided name tags, with good readability - trivial and essential. Program updates should be issued as errata, *not* entirely new programs. I spent heaps of time working out what to see when I got my program, which I more or less had to throw out 'cause I could not see what had changed in any session. The 'reissue the entire program' model also introduces more errors, names being left off panels etc. I attended Aus4 on my own and I was a bit taken aback that there were no opportunities for 'mixing' - that is, no social events or organised forums for discussing what went down in the sessions. I acknowledge I'm probably odd - It's been 20 years since I attended a Con – but I was expecting some sort of reception, or banquet, or party. Worldcons are famous for their hospitality, but unless you were a reader of George RR Martin, there was nothing at Aus4 that provided an opportunity to meet other fans. Double-sided name tags, with good readability – trivial and essential.
Program updates should be issued as errata, *not* entirely new programs. I spent heaps of time working out what to see when I got my program, which I more or less had to throw out ’cause I could not see what had changed in any session. The ‘reissue the entire program’ model also introduces more errors, names being left off panels etc.
I attended Aus4 on my own and I was a bit taken aback that there were no opportunities for ‘mixing’ – that is, no social events or organised forums for discussing what went down in the sessions. I acknowledge I’m probably odd – It’s been 20 years since I attended a Con – but I was expecting some sort of reception, or banquet, or party. Worldcons are famous for their hospitality, but unless you were a reader of George RR Martin, there was nothing at Aus4 that provided an opportunity to meet other fans.

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By: PharaohKatt http://2011.swancon.com.au/2010/09/swancon-thirty-six-natcon-fifty-program/comment-page-1/#comment-9 PharaohKatt Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:29:33 +0000 http://2011.swancon.com.au/?p=366#comment-9 Sorry to double-post but I just wanted to add: So important knowing where guests and panellists are! I turned up to a reading and a signing where the author never turned up, and no one knew where she was. I didn't get to see her all convention, and it was so disappointing :-( Sorry to double-post but I just wanted to add:
So important knowing where guests and panellists are! I turned up to a reading and a signing where the author never turned up, and no one knew where she was. I didn’t get to see her all convention, and it was so disappointing :-(

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